yergnov
Mar 25, 02:18 PM
It's not that Apple isn't capable of coming up with a version of iOS that would run well on the 3G hardware. Of course they could if they wanted to. What it comes down to is Apple having to draw a line in the sand and phase out support at some point. They can't keep spending money to develop for it forever. The 3G is nearly 3 years old. I think it has served it's purpose well, and now it's time to let it retire in peace. It's worked a long time and is tired.
Personally I am surprised anyone is holding on to older phones like that. There are such good deals to be found in selling old hardware that will allow you to upgrade every year if you want with little or no expense to do so. When the 3Gs came out, I sold my original iPhone online for $160, so the upgrade only cost me $40 plus tax. It was well worth it. And when iPhone 5 drops this summer, I will do the same thing. Not too shabby if you ask me.
I totally agree. However, the 4.x was sold as a viable update to my phone, and my older iPod Touch was upgraded automatically. Had I known it would have rendered them quite useless, I would have not agreed to the upgrade. Also, there is no way (that I can tell) to downgrade to a previous IOS (I'm not overly geeky). I am not asking for on-going support, rather that the phone that I paid for works for its lifetime. It is Apple's fault for not providing a reasonable explanation of what the consequences would be or providing an alternative to that IOS.
Personally I am surprised anyone is holding on to older phones like that. There are such good deals to be found in selling old hardware that will allow you to upgrade every year if you want with little or no expense to do so. When the 3Gs came out, I sold my original iPhone online for $160, so the upgrade only cost me $40 plus tax. It was well worth it. And when iPhone 5 drops this summer, I will do the same thing. Not too shabby if you ask me.
I totally agree. However, the 4.x was sold as a viable update to my phone, and my older iPod Touch was upgraded automatically. Had I known it would have rendered them quite useless, I would have not agreed to the upgrade. Also, there is no way (that I can tell) to downgrade to a previous IOS (I'm not overly geeky). I am not asking for on-going support, rather that the phone that I paid for works for its lifetime. It is Apple's fault for not providing a reasonable explanation of what the consequences would be or providing an alternative to that IOS.
res1233
Mar 18, 04:26 PM
As I eagerly await delivery of my first iPad, I know that I want an iPod that will only play music. When I am exercising, I don't want to receive phone calls or emails, I just want music, and I want a device that will hold all of my 12,145 songs, with room to grow.
I don't needs apps, I don't want communication...I just want music.
future post:
Well now that i have an iPod that can hold all my music, and runs great apps, I am even happier!
You don't have to setup e-mail on it if you don't want to ;)
I don't needs apps, I don't want communication...I just want music.
future post:
Well now that i have an iPod that can hold all my music, and runs great apps, I am even happier!
You don't have to setup e-mail on it if you don't want to ;)
wnurse
Sep 12, 04:49 PM
Movies purchased from the iTunes Store can't be burned to a DVD or VCD that will play in a DVD player or Video CD.
How is apple service different from Amazon?. Other than a pretty interface (last time i checked, pretty interfaces did not save me money or help pay the bills).. what's different?. Is the pricing different?.. are the restrictions different?.. why shouldn't I buy from amazon.. what happened to "when apple comes out with their service, they will kill amazon"??
Lame.
How is apple service different from Amazon?. Other than a pretty interface (last time i checked, pretty interfaces did not save me money or help pay the bills).. what's different?. Is the pricing different?.. are the restrictions different?.. why shouldn't I buy from amazon.. what happened to "when apple comes out with their service, they will kill amazon"??
Lame.
kadajawi
Sep 6, 08:39 AM
Noticed that the Mac Mini got a bump too? Core Duo 1.66 for the low end and Core Duo 1.87 for the high end version. But it seems like the low end version doesn't even has an option for a super drive? Weird...
The 24" iMac looks cool :)
The 24" iMac looks cool :)
dongmin
Sep 4, 04:05 PM
Don't know if this deserves its own thread but Appleinsider has some juicy bits in its latest rumors. The upshot is that the new movie service will be high enough quality to be viewed in the living room (which I assume to be at least DVD quality). Be warned: most of it smacks of fanboy speculation.
For some time now, published reports have insinuated that Apple and Jobs would be unwilling to launch a movie download service without a wide, touch-screen video iPod player to coincide. But as he reclines with his feet perched on the sprawling Apple boardroom conference table, Jobs is likely enjoying a chuckle or two -- he's been planning something bigger, something better, something everyone will want.
Just as he asserted that consumers are more eager to own their music tracks for 99 cents a piece rather than rent them on a monthly basis, he realizes that few are willing to plunk down ten bucks for a two-hour movie that they'll have to watch with their neck cranked towards a miniature screen resting in the palm of their hand. As someone at the forefront of the motion picture industry, he knows films are designed for the big screen and later adapted for the home living-room theater.
For these reasons, Jobs many months ago commissioned an elite group of Apple engineers to get the ball rolling on an intuitive hardware solution that would more closely tie the company's digital media strategy to the living-room. And so AppleInsider has been told, Apple has been quietly developing a video streaming device that will interface with an updated version of its iTunes jukebox software.
It's arguably been one of the most closely guarded secrets at Apple since the evolution of the first iPod digital music player, which forever altered the landscape of the music industry when it was introduced in October of 2001. Only a select bunch inside Cupertino have heard of the latest device and even fewer have seen it. Therefore, further details are few and far between.
Insiders can only presume the device will take up the form of a video-enabled version of Apple's existing AirPort Express wireless base station, which lets users stream their iTunes music tracks from their computers to their home stereo receivers. It also acts as a wireless 802.11 router and printing hub.
For some time now, published reports have insinuated that Apple and Jobs would be unwilling to launch a movie download service without a wide, touch-screen video iPod player to coincide. But as he reclines with his feet perched on the sprawling Apple boardroom conference table, Jobs is likely enjoying a chuckle or two -- he's been planning something bigger, something better, something everyone will want.
Just as he asserted that consumers are more eager to own their music tracks for 99 cents a piece rather than rent them on a monthly basis, he realizes that few are willing to plunk down ten bucks for a two-hour movie that they'll have to watch with their neck cranked towards a miniature screen resting in the palm of their hand. As someone at the forefront of the motion picture industry, he knows films are designed for the big screen and later adapted for the home living-room theater.
For these reasons, Jobs many months ago commissioned an elite group of Apple engineers to get the ball rolling on an intuitive hardware solution that would more closely tie the company's digital media strategy to the living-room. And so AppleInsider has been told, Apple has been quietly developing a video streaming device that will interface with an updated version of its iTunes jukebox software.
It's arguably been one of the most closely guarded secrets at Apple since the evolution of the first iPod digital music player, which forever altered the landscape of the music industry when it was introduced in October of 2001. Only a select bunch inside Cupertino have heard of the latest device and even fewer have seen it. Therefore, further details are few and far between.
Insiders can only presume the device will take up the form of a video-enabled version of Apple's existing AirPort Express wireless base station, which lets users stream their iTunes music tracks from their computers to their home stereo receivers. It also acts as a wireless 802.11 router and printing hub.
aswitcher
Jan 11, 04:30 PM
Hmm. Something wireless. :rolleyes:
Yep, thats my guess as well.
Apple High Def TV tuner...in the new AppleTV
Yep, thats my guess as well.
Apple High Def TV tuner...in the new AppleTV
pianodude123
Aug 3, 06:59 PM
So I guess then if there are no new products, why does the screen on the MBP seem so much taller than the actual cpu. Look at the picture where it is turned sideways...
It may just be me, but I dont recall the MBP having an inch of screen hanging over the CPU.
It may just be me, but I dont recall the MBP having an inch of screen hanging over the CPU.
Popeye206
Apr 14, 10:12 AM
PC sales are shrinking because of stagnation in the primary driving force for selling new PC hardware.
Games.
Gamers now have 4 platforms to choose from (smart phone, console, hand-held, PC), and game developers are putting LESS dollars into high end PC titles and concentrating on consoles for their premium products.
With no Diablo 3 (or whatever) to entice me with gameplay I can't find anywhere else, I have much less of a reason to play games on my PC rig, much less upgrade it.
When it comes to writing emails or checking facebook, a smart phone or tablet will do that just as well as a PC.
Macs have never been gaming machines, so they are immune from that particular effect. It is 'trendy' to have a macbook right now (seriously, go to a coffee shop and tell me what you see), and the vast majority of their sales are to less-technology/gadget-savvy users who have bought their Mac because of other people telling them that Macs are good, rather than the hardware, specs, or software on the computer.
In the end, it is all marketing... which is the case with most of Apple's products. They have been selling PC hardware now for years at a higher price than their competitors. Windows 7 isn't any worse (or better) than MacOS for browsing the web or checking email..... so its not the OS that is influencing soccer moms and emo kids to buy Mac either.
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Games.
Gamers now have 4 platforms to choose from (smart phone, console, hand-held, PC), and game developers are putting LESS dollars into high end PC titles and concentrating on consoles for their premium products.
With no Diablo 3 (or whatever) to entice me with gameplay I can't find anywhere else, I have much less of a reason to play games on my PC rig, much less upgrade it.
When it comes to writing emails or checking facebook, a smart phone or tablet will do that just as well as a PC.
Macs have never been gaming machines, so they are immune from that particular effect. It is 'trendy' to have a macbook right now (seriously, go to a coffee shop and tell me what you see), and the vast majority of their sales are to less-technology/gadget-savvy users who have bought their Mac because of other people telling them that Macs are good, rather than the hardware, specs, or software on the computer.
In the end, it is all marketing... which is the case with most of Apple's products. They have been selling PC hardware now for years at a higher price than their competitors. Windows 7 isn't any worse (or better) than MacOS for browsing the web or checking email..... so its not the OS that is influencing soccer moms and emo kids to buy Mac either.
IronLogik
Nov 12, 11:09 AM
The trade off is performance.
Certainly a lot of applications for the iphone could be moved to a web front end, however the applications would be far less sophisticated and would run much slower.
The choice of letting everyone run wild and do whatever the hell they want with the phones is a bad choice. Just look at all the wankers down in Australia who were too lazy to change ssh passwords on their phones and got pwnd by a worm.
If you want to do whatever the heck you want then run a jailbroken phone and take all of the risks.
I do think that Apple needs to work harder on App approval, and I believe the best thing for them to do is have a gold certification level for developers who are trusted. Those developers would be allowed to make as many changes to their applications as they wanted without any interference or approval from apple.
No one is saying that they want to do whatever the heck they want. The developers are saying they want to distribute their applications themselves without Apple having to Approve them. Sure, you can distribute applications on the store. It's a great thing. But you should ALSO have the choice to download an application from the internet from a companies website.
The "wankers down in Australia" are running jailbroken phones and clearly didn't read the farking directions. You do that, serves you right to have your phone infected with a worm.
But no one is saying everyone should have complete control over the phone. They're saying they want to distribute the applications themselves if they so choose to.
Palm and Android both allow this if I recall.
Certainly a lot of applications for the iphone could be moved to a web front end, however the applications would be far less sophisticated and would run much slower.
The choice of letting everyone run wild and do whatever the hell they want with the phones is a bad choice. Just look at all the wankers down in Australia who were too lazy to change ssh passwords on their phones and got pwnd by a worm.
If you want to do whatever the heck you want then run a jailbroken phone and take all of the risks.
I do think that Apple needs to work harder on App approval, and I believe the best thing for them to do is have a gold certification level for developers who are trusted. Those developers would be allowed to make as many changes to their applications as they wanted without any interference or approval from apple.
No one is saying that they want to do whatever the heck they want. The developers are saying they want to distribute their applications themselves without Apple having to Approve them. Sure, you can distribute applications on the store. It's a great thing. But you should ALSO have the choice to download an application from the internet from a companies website.
The "wankers down in Australia" are running jailbroken phones and clearly didn't read the farking directions. You do that, serves you right to have your phone infected with a worm.
But no one is saying everyone should have complete control over the phone. They're saying they want to distribute the applications themselves if they so choose to.
Palm and Android both allow this if I recall.
deputy_doofy
Nov 8, 07:47 AM
Looks like nothing has changed but the processor. Gentlemen, commence your bitching.
You got that right. lol
However, due to the almost lack of changes in the MBP, why would the MB get any serious changes other than processor and memory bumps?
You got that right. lol
However, due to the almost lack of changes in the MBP, why would the MB get any serious changes other than processor and memory bumps?
Stridder44
Nov 7, 09:36 AM
I have a question.... what time does Apple release things, like Cupertino time??? I believe I heard it was nine, and if it is, then we still got another two hours of waiting
Exactly what I was saying. Apple is based in Cupertino, California. It's not even 8 am here yet. Usually stuff happens between 9am-12pm
Exactly what I was saying. Apple is based in Cupertino, California. It's not even 8 am here yet. Usually stuff happens between 9am-12pm
MacinDoc
Sep 2, 11:30 PM
lol, please be honest, in next 5 years, you will need only update windows once (XP->Vista), and you will need to update OSX at least 3 times. Apple is ripping people off on this, there is no question about it, all these ".1" incremental update should not have a price more than $60 at all.
Or you could just update from OS X 10.1 to 10.5, for $129. That would be equivalent to updating from XP to Vista, because you would have gone 5 years without a significant upgrade. If you don't think the incremental features of a .1 update are worth the price, then don't buy it...
And if you really want a bargain, buy a family pack to use on up to 5 Macs in your home. Only $199. Try that with Vista!
And those who say that this is just an upgrade price are incorrect. This is the full retail price for a complete boxed install set.
Or you could just update from OS X 10.1 to 10.5, for $129. That would be equivalent to updating from XP to Vista, because you would have gone 5 years without a significant upgrade. If you don't think the incremental features of a .1 update are worth the price, then don't buy it...
And if you really want a bargain, buy a family pack to use on up to 5 Macs in your home. Only $199. Try that with Vista!
And those who say that this is just an upgrade price are incorrect. This is the full retail price for a complete boxed install set.
skunk
Mar 29, 04:54 PM
And to look at it in a slightly different way ...
Would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene and determine the outcome in our civil war?Best ask the French. They have form.
Would it have helped the United States to have some country intervene and determine the outcome in our civil war?Best ask the French. They have form.
Eraserhead
Apr 26, 01:56 AM
Britain is very class based, and is probably racist too. Black people here are generally poor and don't do particularly well at school as well.
Goldfinger
Sep 4, 08:59 AM
http://www.ipodhub.net/330/2006/9/04/ipod-movies-unveiled/
Some info on the movie store FWIW.
Some info on the movie store FWIW.
kev0476
Aug 4, 08:59 AM
mac mini is up there too.
Edit: is that a new black ipod (possibly video, maybe nano) right next to it?
Edit 2: the banner is not finished yet too, the macbook pro is only half done. maybe a more guarded part of wwdc. it looks like they can fit a bunch more stuff over at the edge. Edit 4: it looks like that edge is just a walkway. but who knows, maybe they could put stuff on it at the edge, above the walkway.
Edit 3: one of the ipods is on its side, maybe to hide the upcoming design.
Edit: is that a new black ipod (possibly video, maybe nano) right next to it?
Edit 2: the banner is not finished yet too, the macbook pro is only half done. maybe a more guarded part of wwdc. it looks like they can fit a bunch more stuff over at the edge. Edit 4: it looks like that edge is just a walkway. but who knows, maybe they could put stuff on it at the edge, above the walkway.
Edit 3: one of the ipods is on its side, maybe to hide the upcoming design.
mikeapple
Apr 2, 01:38 AM
I sure hope iPhone 5 gets a 8 megapixel camera no matter who makes it...
just to shut up these iPhone 4 users who want minimal upgrade for iPhone 5 because their contracts aren't up and still want their phones to look up to date
just to shut up these iPhone 4 users who want minimal upgrade for iPhone 5 because their contracts aren't up and still want their phones to look up to date
LaMerVipere
Sep 4, 01:37 PM
Bring on new iPod nanos made from anodized aluminum like the iPod mini! :D
EdRossignol
Oct 27, 09:53 AM
Hi Guys, i was looking at your cpu temps for your mac books, I have a 12" 1.5ghz Powerbook G4 with 1.25GB RAM, and i get higher CPU temps than you lot, is my G4 faulty... it lasted me nearly 2 years, got passed the faulty battery lark, this is using a new battery apple sent me...
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j49/ed_rossignol/untitled.jpg
all my readings are in *C...
i am on max performance, and running photoshop, handbrake, and watching an mp4 using mplayer:D
Still saving up for my C2D MBP :D should get it in a month :p
~Ed~
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j49/ed_rossignol/untitled.jpg
all my readings are in *C...
i am on max performance, and running photoshop, handbrake, and watching an mp4 using mplayer:D
Still saving up for my C2D MBP :D should get it in a month :p
~Ed~
Barbs
Jan 4, 01:13 PM
LOL
http://joehewitt.com/post/innocent-until-proven-guilty/
That was posted by Joe Hewitt almost 5 months ago. Was it before or after he said he was no longer writing code for the facebook iphone app?
http://joehewitt.com/post/innocent-until-proven-guilty/
That was posted by Joe Hewitt almost 5 months ago. Was it before or after he said he was no longer writing code for the facebook iphone app?
itcheroni
Mar 29, 04:50 AM
So farfetched. May I remind you of a little matter called a Security Council resolution at the instigation of the Arab League? Bush and the neo-cons have no regard for international law.
To suggest that President Obama represents some new nadir in presidential overreach is pure baloney.
Check out all US military engagements since the 1940s. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations) None of them with congressional approval. You can argue that these many dozens, including Vietnam, all represent unconstitutional actions... but you can't argue that Obama represents some kind of new and dangerous deviation from the history of the last 70 years.
I think all of them represent unconstitutional actions...although I didn't bother checking the list. Some of them might of passed the congressional test if they had been forced to go that route. It would have saved us a lot of money not to have engaged in so many military activities.
And I think Obama's actions concerning Libya, in regards to overreaching of Executive powers, are worse than Bush's concerning Iraq. And Bush was probably the worse up until now. Jesus, now I'm depressed.
To suggest that President Obama represents some new nadir in presidential overreach is pure baloney.
Check out all US military engagements since the 1940s. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations) None of them with congressional approval. You can argue that these many dozens, including Vietnam, all represent unconstitutional actions... but you can't argue that Obama represents some kind of new and dangerous deviation from the history of the last 70 years.
I think all of them represent unconstitutional actions...although I didn't bother checking the list. Some of them might of passed the congressional test if they had been forced to go that route. It would have saved us a lot of money not to have engaged in so many military activities.
And I think Obama's actions concerning Libya, in regards to overreaching of Executive powers, are worse than Bush's concerning Iraq. And Bush was probably the worse up until now. Jesus, now I'm depressed.
ikir
Nov 23, 05:18 PM
I don't like Beatles that much, but they changed everything about modern music. Steve Jobs innovated many times.
wnurse
Aug 8, 10:31 PM
I completely agree. It would be a big surprise to me that any method of connecting to an OS X Mac would allow it to be controlled without specific permissions granted by the administrator account, suggesting these guys left the account open on purpose or allowed remote access with the password known. In other words, once you access the computer you still have to get the operating system to give you permission to screw around.
On the other hand, if this exploit is actually true, it doesn't really matter who's driver is to blame: somehow they were able to subvert OS X's security. THAT would be an issue for Apple and for all of us.
All things considered, I don't believe they did what they claim they did.
Yes, it's always good to bury your head in the sand.. makes the problem goes away or even better, makes the problem non-existent. Did you read the part where they are in contact with Apple and microsoft?.. you think apple employees have time to deal with a crackpot?. I believe if this was a joke, you'd know.
On the other hand, if this exploit is actually true, it doesn't really matter who's driver is to blame: somehow they were able to subvert OS X's security. THAT would be an issue for Apple and for all of us.
All things considered, I don't believe they did what they claim they did.
Yes, it's always good to bury your head in the sand.. makes the problem goes away or even better, makes the problem non-existent. Did you read the part where they are in contact with Apple and microsoft?.. you think apple employees have time to deal with a crackpot?. I believe if this was a joke, you'd know.
conradzoo
Sep 12, 02:55 PM
Love the new look, though the icons suck.
Also wondering why iTunes doesn't recognize my audiobooks.
Also wondering why iTunes doesn't recognize my audiobooks.
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