immivjj
10-03 02:29 PM
Hi Ultimo,
Thanks for your quick reply. When i goto USCIS wbesite, and enter the receipt #, it still shows me the date they sent the FP notice. Am i looking at thr wrong place? please let me know.
Thanks for your quick reply. When i goto USCIS wbesite, and enter the receipt #, it still shows me the date they sent the FP notice. Am i looking at thr wrong place? please let me know.
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sksatmt
08-27 08:12 PM
sksatmt sounds like ramhs..same tone of selfishness
I wish all I-485 filers should get there receipt , EAD and AP as well as Final GC as soon as possible.
skdskd and sanjeev_2004 sound one and the same, what are you doing, trying to have some support because nobody is supporting you, i can see that you are fooling in here all day and blame that somebody wants ead for day to day living ? it is you losers who spend all day here fooling around making fun of others, go get a life outside this kind of cheap jokes.
I wish all I-485 filers should get there receipt , EAD and AP as well as Final GC as soon as possible.
skdskd and sanjeev_2004 sound one and the same, what are you doing, trying to have some support because nobody is supporting you, i can see that you are fooling in here all day and blame that somebody wants ead for day to day living ? it is you losers who spend all day here fooling around making fun of others, go get a life outside this kind of cheap jokes.
santb1975
06-23 11:09 AM
All our members in the state chapters are verified and by posting information on state chapters we are ensuring that sensitive information is being passed only to trusted and verified members. There are lot of members in several state chapters that are very active but they are not as active on the IV boards. it is only fair to pass info. first to people who work hard on every action item on a consistent basis. State Chapters have Gate Keepers and we do not add anyone without verifying but remember the Gate Keepers work full time, travel for business and have families so it takes anywhere between 1 to 5 days before a member gets his request accepted. We do not have the luxury of having a dedicated Gate Keepers to our state chapters 24 x 7. I add members to so.cal chapter only after verfying them. I have the time currently to send an email and ask people for info. if they did not provide info. that is mandatory but I might not have the time to do that in the future. I might not be responding to people who do not provide mandatory info. I only have 24 hours in my day just like everyone else. Hope this helps
Team,
What are we getting by getting this update on sate chapter vs. here. If someone wants the link they can get from our signature. Have the state chapter gatekeepers declined anyone? If not then we are really not protecting any information and spliting our audience.
Any comments?
Team,
What are we getting by getting this update on sate chapter vs. here. If someone wants the link they can get from our signature. Have the state chapter gatekeepers declined anyone? If not then we are really not protecting any information and spliting our audience.
Any comments?
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nybear1
07-20 09:24 AM
I am in a similar situation and was rejected due to the same reasons.
Has the original poster received any update on their E-file yet?
Has the original poster received any update on their E-file yet?
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kaisersose
09-17 01:32 PM
Are you sure? Cause I did work with them, no one imagined the crisis of real estate was going to be soooo steep and also no one imagined that my i-485 was going to be approved so fast.
I can proof I worked with them from 2002-2006 (4 years). They gave me a letter saying they still not able to get me a job, i did have intent to work with them.
That is the point. It was not of your own volition.
Also, there is no rule that says citizenship is not available to people who do not work for the sponsoring employer for a certai nperiod of time after GC approval. It is just good practice to stick around for a few months after approval, but it is not law.
You will have no trouble. Change your status from bittersweet to sweet and have fun. Also, good luck finding a new job.
I can proof I worked with them from 2002-2006 (4 years). They gave me a letter saying they still not able to get me a job, i did have intent to work with them.
That is the point. It was not of your own volition.
Also, there is no rule that says citizenship is not available to people who do not work for the sponsoring employer for a certai nperiod of time after GC approval. It is just good practice to stick around for a few months after approval, but it is not law.
You will have no trouble. Change your status from bittersweet to sweet and have fun. Also, good luck finding a new job.
desi3933
09-18 06:56 AM
H1Employer -
Would my mind answering my question?
Thanks!
Can I ask you a question? How much your corp usually pays if you are billing at $80 per hour? 55k per year or 95k per year as Salary + Benefits. (BTW - Just to make things clear, I am not looking for job as I am independent IT consultant with my own corp).
I have seen many cases where consultant is billed at 80-90 per hours and gets paid only 50 to 60k (based on his/her "negotiation" power).
In one case, this agency had two consultants at same client (one of the large banks) and were getting billed at $80 per hour. The H1-B person was getting 56k/year and green card holder was making 95k per year. This is the reason why many people want to jump for another job when they have EAD or GC.
My 2 cents.
Would my mind answering my question?
Thanks!
Can I ask you a question? How much your corp usually pays if you are billing at $80 per hour? 55k per year or 95k per year as Salary + Benefits. (BTW - Just to make things clear, I am not looking for job as I am independent IT consultant with my own corp).
I have seen many cases where consultant is billed at 80-90 per hours and gets paid only 50 to 60k (based on his/her "negotiation" power).
In one case, this agency had two consultants at same client (one of the large banks) and were getting billed at $80 per hour. The H1-B person was getting 56k/year and green card holder was making 95k per year. This is the reason why many people want to jump for another job when they have EAD or GC.
My 2 cents.
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ashkam
05-30 01:32 PM
I got my stamping till 2010 based on my I-140. I did that to save another visit to embassy when I go out of country and its costing me dearly. The visa stamp clearly mentions the effective dates from both 797s. So the officer asked for both 797s and stamped the end date from the current one. As he sounded positive that I can update it at my local USCIS, I didn't persuade him much. Maybe I should've done that!!!
Why did you show him the previous 797 anyways? Doesn't the previous 797 get invalidated the moment you get a new 797?
Why did you show him the previous 797 anyways? Doesn't the previous 797 get invalidated the moment you get a new 797?
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07-14 08:18 PM
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07-14 09:29 PM
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From now on take off Lou and Tom's clothes in every forum where you can . Point Tom's record for bashing immigrants, non-christians and non-white communities.
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Milind123
08-29 11:09 AM
My LC and I140 approved (PD: may 2004). Applied 485 on Aug 8.
I became father last month.
My new born son is sick and he needs total attention for next 4 months. I have used up all my vacation and planning to apply for medical leave. Pediatrician recommends me getting medical leave and support my wife.
I work in a very big hardware company. I have completed 3.5yrs in H1B so far.f I apply for medical leave, I may get a pay cut (like 20 to 30%). Will I be affected because of this medical leave? Are H1B's allowed to take medical leave (upto 4 months)..
Your comments are very much appreciated.
thanks
Search for FMLA over the web,
Here is one link
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
I became father last month.
My new born son is sick and he needs total attention for next 4 months. I have used up all my vacation and planning to apply for medical leave. Pediatrician recommends me getting medical leave and support my wife.
I work in a very big hardware company. I have completed 3.5yrs in H1B so far.f I apply for medical leave, I may get a pay cut (like 20 to 30%). Will I be affected because of this medical leave? Are H1B's allowed to take medical leave (upto 4 months)..
Your comments are very much appreciated.
thanks
Search for FMLA over the web,
Here is one link
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
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caydee
03-07 06:00 PM
I have similar situation - I applied for 140 in July 2006. My daughter will turn 21 in July 2007. As I have applied for 140 before she turns 21, she is safe for GC, but will loose H4 status when she turns 21. As per my lawyer's advice I have applied for her F1 so that she can stay and continue her studies in US. When I become eligible to apply for 485, she can be included in the application - but, not as a dependent of H1B holder.
Can you apply for AOS for your daughter with your 485 application after she moves from H4 to F1?
Can you apply for AOS for your daughter with your 485 application after she moves from H4 to F1?
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raysaikat
01-15 12:59 PM
Thank you for your response raysaikat! Could you please rephrase your first part of the answer "This is not a valid reasoning. The "no" is not related to immigration intent. It is related to if you made factually correct statements."? It's a bit confusing.
There are two different things. (i) Intention to commit immigration fraud by mis-representing facts; (ii) Intention to immigrate.
By returning from the US after your trip, you have proved (ii) to be false (i.e., you did not have intention to immigrate at least at that time). However, that evidence does not prove (i) to be false.
You're saying I need to *prove* that I have no intention for immigrating to US. Do you mean that they must clearly see that I have no intention to stay in the US after I finish college?
Yes, it is a requirement for issuing F-1.
The I-130 form is pending so it's obvious I have such intentions. However, the process takes a very long time. Do you think that if I prove that I plan to go back home after school and then wait for the process in my home country I'll be issued a visa?
Good question, and I do not know the answer. What you say may be true. Please consult a qualified attorney (or ask your brother to consult one).
Do they have information regarding the "I-130" process in their database?
Yes. The IO should have access to all prior and pending immigration related activities associated with you.
I mean there is a chance they don't even ask about it. Well, last time we applied they didn't.
Also, do you think that my previous false response to the application form question could in some way affect my I-130 process? I mean I've returned back so in my understanding it shouldn't be a problem. Please explain.
It should not affect your I-130, but again, I am not a lawyer and you seem to need reliable answers (i.e., you need to consult a lawyer).
If I get lucky and get a visa issued. What happens next? Is it easy to switch to a working "H1B" visa from "F-1" visa and maintain this status until the end of the "I-130" process?
Yes, H1-B is dual-intent. I.e., you do not need to prove non-immigration intent for getting an H1-B stamp.
Is it ok to leave the country while on "H1B" status while "I-130" pending? Please comment. Thank you.
I am not familiar about I-130 that much. If I-130 is similar to I-140, then it is okay to leave US while it is pending. However, if you file I-485, then you must have Advanced Parole before leaving US. Again, a question for a lawyer.
There are two different things. (i) Intention to commit immigration fraud by mis-representing facts; (ii) Intention to immigrate.
By returning from the US after your trip, you have proved (ii) to be false (i.e., you did not have intention to immigrate at least at that time). However, that evidence does not prove (i) to be false.
You're saying I need to *prove* that I have no intention for immigrating to US. Do you mean that they must clearly see that I have no intention to stay in the US after I finish college?
Yes, it is a requirement for issuing F-1.
The I-130 form is pending so it's obvious I have such intentions. However, the process takes a very long time. Do you think that if I prove that I plan to go back home after school and then wait for the process in my home country I'll be issued a visa?
Good question, and I do not know the answer. What you say may be true. Please consult a qualified attorney (or ask your brother to consult one).
Do they have information regarding the "I-130" process in their database?
Yes. The IO should have access to all prior and pending immigration related activities associated with you.
I mean there is a chance they don't even ask about it. Well, last time we applied they didn't.
Also, do you think that my previous false response to the application form question could in some way affect my I-130 process? I mean I've returned back so in my understanding it shouldn't be a problem. Please explain.
It should not affect your I-130, but again, I am not a lawyer and you seem to need reliable answers (i.e., you need to consult a lawyer).
If I get lucky and get a visa issued. What happens next? Is it easy to switch to a working "H1B" visa from "F-1" visa and maintain this status until the end of the "I-130" process?
Yes, H1-B is dual-intent. I.e., you do not need to prove non-immigration intent for getting an H1-B stamp.
Is it ok to leave the country while on "H1B" status while "I-130" pending? Please comment. Thank you.
I am not familiar about I-130 that much. If I-130 is similar to I-140, then it is okay to leave US while it is pending. However, if you file I-485, then you must have Advanced Parole before leaving US. Again, a question for a lawyer.
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eb3_nepa
04-21 11:04 AM
I am all for abonding H1B, when did IV promoted H1B program, we have this mess today due to H1B and itz loopholes,
I don't use word slave very lightly, but we need to accept the fact many of H1Bs are handcuffed with current system, We need system similar to Austrialia, Canada a point based system or very similar to Nurses in US they get GC before even coming to US.
H1Bs are truly pulling the wages down, I know I did when I came here I have no argument with anti-immigrants with this subject, but giving GCs to these H1Bs will have fair chance to compete in Market
Corporate leaders such Bill Gates and Senators such as Kennady do know this issue and have deep understanding but they don't give a rat about it,
Please do not say negative things against the H1B visa guys. Remember if it was not for the H1B, you guys would be in ur home countries right now. Let us all please stop abusing the VERY priviledge we have. H1Bs are FREE to change jobs at will. If you dont like your job CHANGE IT or GO BACK. Slaves cannot change jobs OR go back to their own countries. We cannot expect the system to start bowing to our wishes everytime we dont like what we currently have. No i am not an anti immigrant, Yes I am from India and stuck like the rest of you in retrogression. Right now i would walk a million miles to obtain an H1B visa for my spouse who is stuck in limbo coz of this H1B lottery.
Also this discussion is FUTILE. IV now after 2 years of slogging has a "NAME BRAND". Logiclife has explained that this name cannot be changed. It is a good idea to be called "Legal Immigration Voice" but it is TOO late now. Instead of discussing this let us help the Current Immigration Voice name to achieve success.
I don't use word slave very lightly, but we need to accept the fact many of H1Bs are handcuffed with current system, We need system similar to Austrialia, Canada a point based system or very similar to Nurses in US they get GC before even coming to US.
H1Bs are truly pulling the wages down, I know I did when I came here I have no argument with anti-immigrants with this subject, but giving GCs to these H1Bs will have fair chance to compete in Market
Corporate leaders such Bill Gates and Senators such as Kennady do know this issue and have deep understanding but they don't give a rat about it,
Please do not say negative things against the H1B visa guys. Remember if it was not for the H1B, you guys would be in ur home countries right now. Let us all please stop abusing the VERY priviledge we have. H1Bs are FREE to change jobs at will. If you dont like your job CHANGE IT or GO BACK. Slaves cannot change jobs OR go back to their own countries. We cannot expect the system to start bowing to our wishes everytime we dont like what we currently have. No i am not an anti immigrant, Yes I am from India and stuck like the rest of you in retrogression. Right now i would walk a million miles to obtain an H1B visa for my spouse who is stuck in limbo coz of this H1B lottery.
Also this discussion is FUTILE. IV now after 2 years of slogging has a "NAME BRAND". Logiclife has explained that this name cannot be changed. It is a good idea to be called "Legal Immigration Voice" but it is TOO late now. Instead of discussing this let us help the Current Immigration Voice name to achieve success.
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man-woman-and-gc
03-09 09:22 PM
I am going to India for couple months and plans to return back on AP.I am planning to get my passport Renewal in India.Is it OK to Renew in India as it shows my India address.
Thanks In advance
I think its easier to get the PP renewal done in US as it can be done via mail.
But i think its equally easy to get it done in India. I got my passport renewed within a week in India just last month. There is a 'Tatkal Service' for passport and you can apply under that and get your passport renewed very quickly.
One thing though, if you change your address on Passport, then it may go for police verification, but if nothing chnages on ur passport, you can get it back quickly in using Tatkal...hopefully within 1 week like i did.
Thanks In advance
I think its easier to get the PP renewal done in US as it can be done via mail.
But i think its equally easy to get it done in India. I got my passport renewed within a week in India just last month. There is a 'Tatkal Service' for passport and you can apply under that and get your passport renewed very quickly.
One thing though, if you change your address on Passport, then it may go for police verification, but if nothing chnages on ur passport, you can get it back quickly in using Tatkal...hopefully within 1 week like i did.
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inskrish
07-20 07:03 PM
My Birth Certificate is in the Regional Language of the State that I was born in India. The name of my parents are in English and misspelled. please advice what additional supporting documents do I need to submit for filing I-485.
Please advice.
Hi Sxk,
You have to contact a certified foreign language translator in your area and get your document translated in to English, but I am not sure how to handle the spelling mistake issue. However, spelling mistake in parents name is not a major issue, and USCIS will send RFE when there is a spelling mistake in applicants' names.
Regards,
IK
Please advice.
Hi Sxk,
You have to contact a certified foreign language translator in your area and get your document translated in to English, but I am not sure how to handle the spelling mistake issue. However, spelling mistake in parents name is not a major issue, and USCIS will send RFE when there is a spelling mistake in applicants' names.
Regards,
IK
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eager_immi
01-25 12:49 PM
Even the documet is going to be voluntary. No fear :)
Why don't we just voluntarily mention the amount that we contributed in our signatures ? Since contributions are voluntary, so should be the option of disclosing information on it. When many contributing members start furnishing their contribtion information voluntarily, it becomes the "fashion" and others will follow suit, as no one wants to look like a free-rider.
As for the veracity of the information, we got to trust each other on that and follow an audit policy- I assume the core members/ administrators have the ability to cross-check the contribution information if someone looks suspicious. Anyone caught furnishing false information can be blacklisted. Such a policy minimises the work of the core team, without being overly intrusive.
Why don't we just voluntarily mention the amount that we contributed in our signatures ? Since contributions are voluntary, so should be the option of disclosing information on it. When many contributing members start furnishing their contribtion information voluntarily, it becomes the "fashion" and others will follow suit, as no one wants to look like a free-rider.
As for the veracity of the information, we got to trust each other on that and follow an audit policy- I assume the core members/ administrators have the ability to cross-check the contribution information if someone looks suspicious. Anyone caught furnishing false information can be blacklisted. Such a policy minimises the work of the core team, without being overly intrusive.
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la6470
10-18 05:31 PM
Well as I said before it is not to be taken seriously enough so as to increase your BP...but I am just curious what is so special about Hanukkah that it is mentioned everywhere in western mainstream media and not Diwali?
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willwin
10-19 11:43 AM
disclaimer:
This looks promising to me having an EB2-India -Sept 2005 priority date.
I can totally understand a 2005 India EB3 filer thinking this is the worst news ever...and i do feel ur pain.
Why do you think so?
I am EB3-Mar2005(RIR)-India-CP.
This looks promising to me having an EB2-India -Sept 2005 priority date.
I can totally understand a 2005 India EB3 filer thinking this is the worst news ever...and i do feel ur pain.
Why do you think so?
I am EB3-Mar2005(RIR)-India-CP.
smohan
07-08 04:48 PM
Well, it appears some mix up happened for Houston listeneres. I tuned in at 90.1 FM to listen this interview, at 3 pm central time(Houston time) but only music was being played.
later on internet I could listen the last 15 minutes of the session only, which sounded very good by its questions answers and content.
I am wondering if the recording of the whole session could be placed on IV site for all of us benifit who missed it.
Regards
later on internet I could listen the last 15 minutes of the session only, which sounded very good by its questions answers and content.
I am wondering if the recording of the whole session could be placed on IV site for all of us benifit who missed it.
Regards
dvb123
12-03 07:48 AM
10/31/2008: PERM Filing Alert for IT Occupations and Certain Professional Occupations
When the permanent labor certification system used DOT system, there were a number of IT occupations that fell under SVP 8. When the DOL changed the permanent labor certification system, it abandoned DOT system which focused on SVP concept. Since then OFLC has been using O*Net Job Zone concept and applied Job Zone 4 as equivalent to SVP 7 that can require from two years to maximum four years of preparation time (education, training, and experience). The Job Zone 5 is practically equivalent to SVP 8 that can require from four years to 10 years of preparation time (education, training, and experience). During the DOT era which ended on March 27, 2005, some IT occupations fell under SVP 7 and some IT occupations fell under SVP 8. Accordingly, EB-2 labor certifications for IT occupations were filed and approved when the occupations fell under SVP 8. Software Engineer, DBA, Science/Engineering Application Programmer, etc. illustrate these IT occupations.
When the O*Net Job Zones replaced the DOT, the system downgraded all the IT occupations into Job Zone 4 except Computer Information and System Manager occupation (IT Manager) which remained at Job Zone 5. Since all the IT occupations other than IT manager belonged to the Job Zone 4, had the DOL strictly adhered to Job Zone system as they interpreted, any applications for IT occupations that required more than a bachelor's degree plus two years of experience should have faced a business necessity challenge and denials in most of such applications. However, from March 28, 2005 until June 2007, the DOL de facto adhered to their previous practice under the DOT system and most of the EB-2 IT occupations such as Software Engineer, DBA, etc., which belonged to SVP 8 under DOT system, have been approved without much challenge.
The landscape changed beginning from July 2007 when they started focusing on the integrity of labor certification system. The agency started challenging such EB-2 requirement even for the SVP 8 IT occupations under DOT if it belonged to the Job Zone 4. The challenge took a form of "audit." Such EB-2 requirements have faced a massive challenge and audits. However, the former SVP 8 IT cases have been approved after the audits in a large number of cases. This practice is expected to change once the new form ETA 9089 PERM application program is launched next year since the new form will automatically consider such EB-2 requirement for IT occupations as the business necessity cases for exceeding the Job Zone 4 requirement. Initinally, DOL was scheduled to launch the new ETA 9089 form beginning from January 1, 2009, but luckily they pushed off the starting date to late Spring of 2009. That was a good news.
Bad news is a further change in O*Net Job Zone for IT manager occupations. They just changed the O*Net data into version 13.0 which down graded IT manager job zone from 5 to 4! The last vestige of Job Zone 5 in IT occupations has been cruelly crushed to death. Since EB-2 occupation must require either a master's degree or Bachelor's degree plus five years of progressive experience, now all the IT occupations exceed the Job Zone 4 allowed preparation time. We will have to wait and see how this change in Job Zone for IT manager occupation will be managed in actual adjudication of PERM applications hereon, but it is certainly not a positive news.
The recent downgrading of professional occupations from Job Zone 5 to Job 4 does not end with the IT occupations. There are a number of professional occupations that have been downgraded practically to nonprofessional occupations in some cases. Company General Manager is downgraded to Job Zone 3!! Employers who start PERM recruitment should review the attached Job Zone changes and seek legal advice. Believe me, there are a lot of surprises.
When the permanent labor certification system used DOT system, there were a number of IT occupations that fell under SVP 8. When the DOL changed the permanent labor certification system, it abandoned DOT system which focused on SVP concept. Since then OFLC has been using O*Net Job Zone concept and applied Job Zone 4 as equivalent to SVP 7 that can require from two years to maximum four years of preparation time (education, training, and experience). The Job Zone 5 is practically equivalent to SVP 8 that can require from four years to 10 years of preparation time (education, training, and experience). During the DOT era which ended on March 27, 2005, some IT occupations fell under SVP 7 and some IT occupations fell under SVP 8. Accordingly, EB-2 labor certifications for IT occupations were filed and approved when the occupations fell under SVP 8. Software Engineer, DBA, Science/Engineering Application Programmer, etc. illustrate these IT occupations.
When the O*Net Job Zones replaced the DOT, the system downgraded all the IT occupations into Job Zone 4 except Computer Information and System Manager occupation (IT Manager) which remained at Job Zone 5. Since all the IT occupations other than IT manager belonged to the Job Zone 4, had the DOL strictly adhered to Job Zone system as they interpreted, any applications for IT occupations that required more than a bachelor's degree plus two years of experience should have faced a business necessity challenge and denials in most of such applications. However, from March 28, 2005 until June 2007, the DOL de facto adhered to their previous practice under the DOT system and most of the EB-2 IT occupations such as Software Engineer, DBA, etc., which belonged to SVP 8 under DOT system, have been approved without much challenge.
The landscape changed beginning from July 2007 when they started focusing on the integrity of labor certification system. The agency started challenging such EB-2 requirement even for the SVP 8 IT occupations under DOT if it belonged to the Job Zone 4. The challenge took a form of "audit." Such EB-2 requirements have faced a massive challenge and audits. However, the former SVP 8 IT cases have been approved after the audits in a large number of cases. This practice is expected to change once the new form ETA 9089 PERM application program is launched next year since the new form will automatically consider such EB-2 requirement for IT occupations as the business necessity cases for exceeding the Job Zone 4 requirement. Initinally, DOL was scheduled to launch the new ETA 9089 form beginning from January 1, 2009, but luckily they pushed off the starting date to late Spring of 2009. That was a good news.
Bad news is a further change in O*Net Job Zone for IT manager occupations. They just changed the O*Net data into version 13.0 which down graded IT manager job zone from 5 to 4! The last vestige of Job Zone 5 in IT occupations has been cruelly crushed to death. Since EB-2 occupation must require either a master's degree or Bachelor's degree plus five years of progressive experience, now all the IT occupations exceed the Job Zone 4 allowed preparation time. We will have to wait and see how this change in Job Zone for IT manager occupation will be managed in actual adjudication of PERM applications hereon, but it is certainly not a positive news.
The recent downgrading of professional occupations from Job Zone 5 to Job 4 does not end with the IT occupations. There are a number of professional occupations that have been downgraded practically to nonprofessional occupations in some cases. Company General Manager is downgraded to Job Zone 3!! Employers who start PERM recruitment should review the attached Job Zone changes and seek legal advice. Believe me, there are a lot of surprises.
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